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Originally Posted by eriu3
don't agree with the above statement, a character wipe, removes everything remember including your precious npc armours, believe it or not the old NPCs were still a challenge, bar Aen. Lixie was hard, only a few sets survive to this day,the game just isnt about NPC clothes, what about all the champion, exterminator,elder of atys titles that would be lost, thelevels, the rare crafted items, the rare npc bought items from ep 1 and 2, the irreplacable items that were given as gifts from homins that no longer roam atys.
on a different forum Kaetemi states that if the game goes open source he would "fix the ring", how can he do that without finding out the problems with it? and i bet if the game is bought out by a company he'l document all of his findings and submit it to the new owners.
Think of it as exploiting if you want, I see it as Kaetemi spending his own time helping to progress the ring in a possitive direction, ie, fix it.
When he came on here and gave us all knowledge of how to add titles to NPCs in the ring for example, no-one jeered "eek exploit", when he finds bugs however that lets people spawn items, "eek he's exploiting!!"
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Ok,
First of all, i said Character WIPE not DELETE - so your names would stay.. they are YOUR characters. All titles such as BETA titles (Elder of Atys), and the Server Merge titles (Wayfarer?) etc etc would reamin.. they are YOURS.
As for special event type items.. they can stay as well (Candy Canes, etc).
BUT the point being is you will be back to the Level 1 in all, your dapper count will be zero, and all looted/crafted/etc stuff GONE!
I could write alot here about it... be seriously the silliest thing ever done was to rebalance true BOSSESS (the closest thing to a RAID Atys has) and allow the previous loot to stay.... (we can argue what should/could have been subsidised to those who have it... till the cows come home..)
As for Kaetemi; he gets 110% of my support for trying to improve the game... but the whole point has nothing to do with finding such bugs/exploits.. it has to do with using them.
If he wants to decompile the code, document it all, then my hat goes off big time.... but to either use himself or spread word to others who use / and or spread word and how to exploit these bug thus making them hacks...
I never once attacked or named anyone behind this...
but based on what has come to light... maybe someone can explain if this is possible.
Manda / Dolak make great fire resit jewels.. good for dropping lixie in 14 minutes like GoJ did at least 5 times with me....
SOOOOOOOO
how bout i make a ring scenarios with lots of Manda's and Dolaks on instant repop... farm the mats and make the entire guild fire resit jewels ???
Good idea? or Exploit???
So for everyone here that whats to argue finding bugs and documenting vs using such bugs (exploits) in a LIVE system..... lets move on from NPC armour and start thinking of all the different things the Ring offers that fast tracks any kind of achievement....
I think anyone with half a brain will see....
The argument was lost before it started..
EXPLOITS ARE HACKS and people who use them ARE CHEATERS!!
Have a good day