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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
I don't understand how this was a "spoiler". Spoiler is something you will get knowing eventually. But what was posted by Kommisar is something that only veteran players would know.
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
The old lore that I have come across fails to mention many things that are now present in the game. It skips over major characters, themes and events that have been added to the Atys mythos. I suspect that as Atys came to life, many of the original ideas were tweaked beyond recognition, new ideas added, old ones removed.
I know if it were me and I were creating a game that I was in part marketing as "What is Atys?", "What is really going on?" "Who is Jena?'" I do not think I would follow previous explanations of the back story that were released to the test players as the game was being developed. I suspect that as Atys is/was being transformed from paper to program many things are changed, that as ideas are implemented in the game, they morph to fit game play, balance, and dynamics. I think we would be best served when discussing the 'Science of Atys' by using what we know has happened and by what is actually in the game. After all I could find some old posts and make an argument that spires are now in the game. The lose of the chronicles and the lore sections that use to be on the official site infers to me that the only 'lore' we know for sure that will survive the rebirth is written on the temple walls. We have also seen some indication that what has occurred in the saga forums will remain as history. I am hopeful that the post launch lore will be restored/reworked before subs are renewed. Back to the central topic: As far as Homins go, it is all in the 'seed'. That little something extra growing in our brains. |
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
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All Temples agree that homin races were created during the founding of Atys. The Kamist lore claims that each race rose separately from seeds in their respective homes. How does your theory explain the hominid races, the Gibbads, Frahar, Cutes and extinct Momos? Are they more evolved than homins? |
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
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Location: Anchorage Alaska
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kansas
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
Not in character of course.... Curious does the lore specifically state how homin breeding works? I only recall hearing things about the races being seeds, ect. Which can be taken quite literally in a fantasy world.... I mean who is to say homins actually come into contact with one another in the breeding process.
Perhaps homins are quite literally grown from the ground and the only difference between races is where they were planted, aka the the enviormental effects on growth. Dunno, have never read anything on homin breeding, ryzom is so different, you can't expect homins to breed and share traits like humans. Just because they look similar doesn't mean they do the same thing. Would explain why races are different, yet similar to the local primitives. aka zorai born in jungle areas with lots of tree/plant life (minus heavily goo infected areas) and goo influence. Gibbais tend to be found in areas like this too eh? Even the gibbai in matis lands are found in more heavily forested areas. Perhaps Gibbai were once zorai. Yet infected by the Goo's influence changed to a more primal nature, which is what happens with the goo infected stuff I think? They become more violent ect. Though they were all origionally down in the roots I think? But where they living in seperate areas racially, where they bred in certain ways purposely? Never seen any lore on how homins grow and develop and specifically in what conditions there were born/raised in, to consider those as factors. |
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
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We have a number of Momo candidates actually ![]() ![]() and also these... ![]() Wouldn't say they look a lot like matis tho... The Gibbai, the cutes and the Frahar are called "degenerate" homins in fact so that would mean they are the by-product of homin genetic ingeneering, which initially went in 4 directions forming 4 peoples thus the by-products would be kind of similar to those 4 peoples aswell...
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Looks more like desert-style Kami to me. |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: UTC-8: Oregon, USA
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
It always seemed obvious to me that those were Kami, but come to think of it, there's nothing that confirms that except maybe trailer #10.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: The Atysian Science Forum
Regarding the Momo, a few snippets of info from an official Ring scenario:
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