January 1st, 2009, 04:03 PM | #21 | |
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Re: Faction/Race explained
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This is actually incorrect. If you do a Welcomer (Kami or Karavan) you only gain fame, you do not lose any fame at all. This can easily be verified in the sys info window. Ambassador missions (Kami or Karavan in a tribal location) do function as you describe. Other than this one correction, that's a great summary Sidusar. |
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January 1st, 2009, 04:08 PM | #22 |
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Re: Faction/Race explained
Hmm, how does one kill faction fame, then?
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January 1st, 2009, 04:41 PM | #23 |
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Re: Faction/Race explained
Thanks for the proofreading!
I've done some missions for a Karavan Welcomer recently - I'm pretty sure it also said "You lost fame with the Kami". Though as said this secondary effect is smaller so maybe it's zero for missions that only give a little fame? I'll check again. Kami and Karavan ambassadors give fame as if they were tribe welcomers, yes. |
January 1st, 2009, 05:14 PM | #24 |
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Re: Faction/Race explained
This is a table as a result of a research I did a lot of time ago. There are 6 tribes missed, despite I'm sure I've done missions for Slavers, but seems I didn't wrote back the results.
I already posted this table in the forum, but now I removed the fame values, that are just related to my race and not important in this context. Names in parenthesis are the tribe names as they appear in the fame window list. All the tribe missions were taken from the Tribe Welcomer only (even the tribes that kos me). Color Legend: Gain Fame Lose Fame # KARAVAN TRIBES --------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Antikamis Karavan Kami, Zora 02 Barkers Karavan Kami 03 Black Circle Karavan Kami 04 Chlorogoos Karavan Kami 05 Darkening Sap Karavan, Matis Kami, Zorai 06 Firebrands Karavan Kami 07 Goo Heads Karavan Kami, Zorai 08 Green Seed Karavan, Matis, Tryker Kami 09 Kitin Gatherers Karavan Kami 10 Lawless Karavan Kami, Fyros 11 Master Of The Goo Karavan Kami, Zorai 12 Matisian Border Guards Karavan Kami, First Deserters 13 Night Turners Karavan Kami 14 Oasis Diggers Karavan, Fyros Kami 15 Renegades Karavan Kami, Fyros 16 Root Tappers Karavan, Fyros, Tryker Kami 17 Sap Slaves Karavan, Matis Kami, Ancient Dryads 18 Scorchers Karavan Kami, Fyros, Fraiders 19 Silt Sculptors Karavan, Tryker Kami 20 Slavers Karavan Kami, Tryker 21 Smugglers Karavan Kami 22 The Arid Matis Karavan, Matis Kami, Woven Bridles 23 The Kuild Karavan, Matis Kami, The Company of Eternal Tree, Recoverers 24 The Slash And Burn Karavan Kami, Matis # KAMI TRIBES --------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Ancient Dryads Kami Karavan, Matis, Sap Slaves 02 Beachcombers Kami Karavan 03 Cockroaches Kami Karavan 04 Company of the Eternal Tree Kami, Zorai Karavan, Kuild 05 Corsairs Kami, Tryker Karavan 06 Dune Riders Kami Karavan 07 Ecowarriors Kami, Zorai, Tryker Karavan 08 First Deserter Kami Karavan, Matis, Matisian Border Guards 09 Frahar Hunters Kami, Fyros Karavan 10 Hamazans Of The Dead Seed Kami Karavan 11 Icon Worshippers Kami, Zorai Karavan 12 Keepers Kami Karavan 13 Lagoon Brothers Kami Karavan, Tryker, Cuzans 14 Leviers Kami, Fyros Karavan 15 Pyromancers Kami, Fyros Karavan 16 Recoverers Kami Karavan, Kuild 17 Sacred Sap Kami, Zorai Karavan, Matis 18 Sap Gleaners Kami Karavan 19 Shadow Runners Kami, Tryker Karavan 20 Siblings of the Weeds Kami, Zorai Karavan 21 Tutors Kami, Zorai Karavan 22 Watchers(Restorers) Kami, Fyros Karavan 23 Water Breakers Kami, Fyros Karavan 24 Woven Bridles Kami Karavan, Matis, The Arid Matis # PRIMITIVE TRIBES(*) --------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Cuzans (Cute) Karavan Kami, Lagoon Brothers 2 Fraiders (Frahar) Karavan Kami, Scorchers 3 Gibads (Gibbay) Kami Karavan # CITIZENS (**) --------------------------------------------------------------- Fyros Fyros Frahars Hunters Leviers Oasis Diggers Pyromances Watchers Root Tappers Water Breakers Lawless Renegades Scorchers --------------------------------------------------------------- Matis Matis Darkening Sap Green Seed Sap Slaves The Arid Matis Kuild Ancient Dryads First Deserters Sacred Sap The Slash and Burn Woven Bridles --------------------------------------------------------------- Zorai Zorai The Company of Eternal Tree Ecowarriors Icon Worshippers Sacred Sap Siblings of the Weeds Tutors Antikamis Darkening Sap Goo Heads Master of the Goo --------------------------------------------------------------- Tryker Tryker Corsairs Ecowarriors Green Seed Root Tappers Shadow Runners Silt Sculptors Lagoon Brothers Slavers --------------------------------------------------------------- (*) They have no sign of a faction into camp, but 2 give positive fame with Karavan and one with Kami, also 2 of them are enemies of a tribe present in the same region, regardless of the faction. (**) I have done one mission from some city welcomer, captain, corporal and ambassador, they all gave me the same results. Edit: Added the missed tribes, for completeness. Thank you, sidusar Last edited by gcaldani : January 9th, 2009 at 07:59 PM. |
January 1st, 2009, 05:40 PM | #25 |
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Re: Faction/Race explained
That's a nice extensive list
05 Darkening Sap Karavan, Matis Kami, Zoraď 10 Lawless Karavan Kami, Fyros 20 Slavers Karavan Kami, Tryker 01 Ancient Dryads Kami Karavan, Matis, Sap Slaves 13 Lagoon Brothers Kami Karavan, Tryker, Cuzans 24 Woven Bridles Kami Karavan, Matis, The Arid Matis Not all from tribe Welcomers, I admit, two of these tribes will still only let me take missions from their Scouts, but I've never seen that make a difference. Last edited by sidusar : January 1st, 2009 at 06:40 PM. |
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