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901941 · April 14th, 2009, 04:24 PM

One of the contents that keep me interested besides the lore is the ring. Not much has been mentioned to improve the ring. Are there plans to add any of the suggestion posted here?

vonzuben · April 14th, 2009, 06:41 PM

I love the ring but had to stop using it.

The first patch applied by SW introduced 2 severe bugs, one that stops the author from accessing their own scenario, and another that gets players stuck in the ring. I was able to work around those and ran “Who Let the Dogs Out” for a month.

The third patch (i.e. during event with KPs) introduced a 3rd severe bug. Basically it makes the potential to for players to get stuck in the ring even greater and rather consistent. With this I decided I must give up on the ring until they fix it.

Like I say I LOVE the ring. I’d love to finish my next scenario called “Kitin Lickin”. But after reporting in great detail these 3 bugs plus many other less severe ones, I have heard nothing. A CSR did ask questions about it, but nothing back since (we are talking over a month now from my most recent bug report).

So my take on the ring… screw any additions of new suggestions for now. First just make it useable. In its current state it should be shut down. In its current state it will scare people away from ever wanting to use the ring. I’m very disheartened by this.

suib0m · April 14th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Wasn't one of the recent updates supposed to *fix* the player sticking issue? Hmm.. I haven't played with the ring since just after the previous Loria event, but can't make one live so I've not played much... I was so looking forward to being able to explore it more after fixing my sub... this news makes me sad

.

Peace,
- Sui

sidusar · April 14th, 2009, 08:20 PM

Oh gods, let's not.

You'll find naught but sadness there.

Last year I made a scenario for Halloween and then one for Christmas and they were fairly well received, but since that I haven't used the Ring in 3 months now. Partly because I just haven't found the time anymore, but half of the players being unable to use the Ring at all until they get billing set up has not been very encouraging to make time either...

And then I heard from other Ring creators about those new bugs and confirmed them for myself, so yeah...

It saddens me a lot, because I had 3 more projects on the todo-list I would've really liked to finish, and a dozen more vague ideas I'd have liked to work out someday. But there's just no point while only 10-20% of the playerbase is even capable of using the Ring without issues.

And with the new owners seemingly putting emphasis on story and roleplay and giving more power and more active roles to the players, it disappoints me they're completely ignoring the Ring, which if it worked properly and just got a few additions could still be a very powerful tool to support this kind of play.

Fix those bugs, get billing back up or do something else to give every player Ring-access, and let us host the scenarios without having to bloody babysit them, and I'll start happily churning out scenarios again until the end of Ryzom's or my days.

suib0m · April 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM

On that last note, we don't really know what the devs are up to. The events and RP stuff seems more centric to what the GM/Event staff are doing to bolster interest, but we really have no clue (that I've seen) of where dev is going. My hopes are still up that they will address the Ring (but I'm obviously an optimist as far as this game goes).

Peace,
- Sui

vonzuben · April 14th, 2009, 08:47 PM

I get the impression that they have no idea that they have done things that have affected the ring.

Another bug that I reported is that they have somehow impacted “getting stuck on Terrain”. My Christmas scenario ran for a month, almost 24x7, and nothing (i.e. the mobs) were getting stuck on terrain. I then tried it out recently and since the patches, this scenario untouched has mobs getting stuck all over the place. I suspect I could fix it but they need to realize that when they change crap, THEY NEED TO TEST THE RING TOO or otherwise shut it down and stop scaring people away from ever wanting to try it.

Another thing… Did you know, heck do the DEVS even know, that each time they do the weekly maintenance server restart, you can instead of logging out, simply go into a ring scenario, happily play, then when the worlds come back up, exit and continue playing (works fine assuming you manage to avoid the “stuck in the ring bug”). My point here is that they ignore the ring for server restarts. For all we know, the new bugs come from simply leaving the darn ring server up forever, or not keeping something in sync when patching or doing server restarts.

sidusar · April 14th, 2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonzuben

Did you know, heck do the DEVS even know, that each time they do the weekly maintenance server restart, you can instead of logging out, simply go into a ring scenario, happily play, then when the worlds come back up, exit and continue playing

Yup, happened to me several times that the servers went down as I was editing, it's quite amusing.

First time it happened, "Marelli has left guild Reapers of the Dark." WTF?

April 14th, 2009, 04:24 PM	#1
901941 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 237	Let's talk about the ring! One of the contents that keep me interested besides the lore is the ring. Not much has been mentioned to improve the ring. Are there plans to add any of the suggestion posted here?

April 14th, 2009, 06:41 PM	#2
vonzuben Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 169	Re: Let's talk about the ring! I love the ring but had to stop using it. The first patch applied by SW introduced 2 severe bugs, one that stops the author from accessing their own scenario, and another that gets players stuck in the ring. I was able to work around those and ran “Who Let the Dogs Out” for a month. The third patch (i.e. during event with KPs) introduced a 3rd severe bug. Basically it makes the potential to for players to get stuck in the ring even greater and rather consistent. With this I decided I must give up on the ring until they fix it. Like I say I LOVE the ring. I’d love to finish my next scenario called “Kitin Lickin”. But after reporting in great detail these 3 bugs plus many other less severe ones, I have heard nothing. A CSR did ask questions about it, but nothing back since (we are talking over a month now from my most recent bug report). So my take on the ring… screw any additions of new suggestions for now. First just make it useable. In its current state it should be shut down. In its current state it will scare people away from ever wanting to use the ring. I’m very disheartened by this.

April 14th, 2009, 06:59 PM	#3
suib0m Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 246	Re: Let's talk about the ring! Wasn't one of the recent updates supposed to fix the player sticking issue? Hmm.. I haven't played with the ring since just after the previous Loria event, but can't make one live so I've not played much... I was so looking forward to being able to explore it more after fixing my sub... this news makes me sad . Peace, - Sui

April 14th, 2009, 08:20 PM	#4
sidusar Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,331	Re: Let's talk about the ring! Oh gods, let's not. You'll find naught but sadness there. Last year I made a scenario for Halloween and then one for Christmas and they were fairly well received, but since that I haven't used the Ring in 3 months now. Partly because I just haven't found the time anymore, but half of the players being unable to use the Ring at all until they get billing set up has not been very encouraging to make time either... And then I heard from other Ring creators about those new bugs and confirmed them for myself, so yeah... It saddens me a lot, because I had 3 more projects on the todo-list I would've really liked to finish, and a dozen more vague ideas I'd have liked to work out someday. But there's just no point while only 10-20% of the playerbase is even capable of using the Ring without issues. And with the new owners seemingly putting emphasis on story and roleplay and giving more power and more active roles to the players, it disappoints me they're completely ignoring the Ring, which if it worked properly and just got a few additions could still be a very powerful tool to support this kind of play. Fix those bugs, get billing back up or do something else to give every player Ring-access, and let us host the scenarios without having to bloody babysit them, and I'll start happily churning out scenarios again until the end of Ryzom's or my days.

April 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM	#5
suib0m Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 246	Re: Let's talk about the ring! On that last note, we don't really know what the devs are up to. The events and RP stuff seems more centric to what the GM/Event staff are doing to bolster interest, but we really have no clue (that I've seen) of where dev is going. My hopes are still up that they will address the Ring (but I'm obviously an optimist as far as this game goes). Peace, - Sui

April 14th, 2009, 08:47 PM	#6
vonzuben Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 169	Re: Let's talk about the ring! I get the impression that they have no idea that they have done things that have affected the ring. Another bug that I reported is that they have somehow impacted “getting stuck on Terrain”. My Christmas scenario ran for a month, almost 24x7, and nothing (i.e. the mobs) were getting stuck on terrain. I then tried it out recently and since the patches, this scenario untouched has mobs getting stuck all over the place. I suspect I could fix it but they need to realize that when they change crap, THEY NEED TO TEST THE RING TOO or otherwise shut it down and stop scaring people away from ever wanting to try it. Another thing… Did you know, heck do the DEVS even know, that each time they do the weekly maintenance server restart, you can instead of logging out, simply go into a ring scenario, happily play, then when the worlds come back up, exit and continue playing (works fine assuming you manage to avoid the “stuck in the ring bug”). My point here is that they ignore the ring for server restarts. For all we know, the new bugs come from simply leaving the darn ring server up forever, or not keeping something in sync when patching or doing server restarts.

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