Community, what community?

[rushin]

It's amazing how much hate, mistrust, arrogance and greed has wormed its way into our community since outposts were introduced.

It's pathetic, we should all be ashamed of ourselves. I remember a time when the kamist and karavan players had respect for each other. Where i would stand side by side with doubletap and we would endeavour to fight off the kitin. Wander with Spriteh in KoD and have discussions about Zorai masks.. what the hell has happened to everyone?

like every single other thread on the forum this will get flamed to hell, full of bile. It used to be the case that in game people were more reasonable even when things flared up here. Hard to say thats still true isnt it?

Does anyone who was here before the outposts think things are better now? can look around them and honestly say our world is a better place? Just because they are in game it doesn’t mean everyone has to behave like a spoilt teenage boy. Anyone who comes into the game now see's what the atmosphere is like and of course they will fit in with that, won’t be long before our community is indistinguishable from WoW's. that what everyone wants?

[sehracii]

If I am critical of the TS donation to the Community OP, it is because I believe it hurts everyone. Especially the Kami alliance. The intentions may have been good, but the effects won't be.

There is no greed, hate, or mistrust involved.

[final60]

It was a good idea to donate the OP! Dont be suprised if a couple more OPs go the same route! It assures fair distribution of an OPs produce for all OPless guilds! Almost as good as removing XP Cats !

[katriell]

Although I appreciate the RP value of outposts and the fun of actual PvP within their battles, I must agree with Rushin on this.

I cannot believe that there is anything inherently wrong and harmful about "charity." What's next, claims that giving free stuff to new players is bad too? Actually, I should make that question rhetorical, because someone will surely answer "yes" and mean it...and that will be disappointing.

[ajsuk]

Originally Posted by final60

Dont be suprised if a couple more OPs go the same route!

It wouldn't surprise me at all unfortunatly. I hope the remaining OP holding guilds stay on the more honorable track instead of using this "safeguarding" exploit.

[final60]

There is little choice at the moment! Its a choice between having nothing and having a little of what one had before.

*The Kamis would be more then happy to go and forcibly take OPs. Of course! But that isnt an option.

[ajsuk]

Originally Posted by katriell

I cannot believe that there is anything inherently wrong and harmful about "charity." What's next, claims that giving free stuff to new players is bad too?

The mats and crafted goods for them more than likely come from a non-combat related source. OP produce is designed to be earned via PvP.

[ajsuk]

Originally Posted by final60

*The Kamis would be more then happy to go and forcibly take OPs. Of course! But that isnt an option.

So get off your backsides and make it one.

[final60]

Get off my backside? Your an ignorant fool to think that Kamis are just lazy and would rather sit around hugging trees then fight for what they believe in! I'd put it to you we've had to work harder then any Karas in the past year!

[ajsuk]

Originally Posted by final60

I'd put it to you we've had to work harder then any Karas in the past year!

I don't doubt it, shame the work hasn't been channeled in the right direction. That is: away from moaning and in to organization.