Been neutral

[arfindel]

Originally Posted by grimjim

You lose

* Direct TP to 250 areas and the Prime Roots.
* Access to a PvP tag.
* An alliance to back up ownership of an outpost, should you want one.

....

Alllow me to disagree, Jyudas. If you are a guild with a lot of friends and if you are able to lead a political line appropriate for the purpose I am sure a neutral guild can get together an alliance to win an OP with and for you.

Dragonblades btw are an example of such a situation.

But... the person asking said: no pvp whatsoever, therefore only an exceptional inheritage would lead them to have an OP.

[grimjim]

Originally Posted by arfindel

Alllow me to disagree, Jyudas. If you are a guild with a lot of friends and if you are able to lead a political line appropriate for the purpose I am sure a neutral guild can get together an alliance to win an OP with and for you.

Dragonblades btw are an example of such a situation.

No comment.

Originally Posted by arfindel

But... the person asking said: no pvp whatsoever, therefore only an exceptional inheritage would lead them to have an OP.

Indeed, but I was trying to anticipate that others with similar questions might read the thread.

[iwojimmy]

Originally Posted by danolt

......
. These battles are like elections, no one is hurt, no one dies, and when it is over, in most cases the side with the most Homins wins.
....

Pero

In RL, as a result of every election you get winners and losers.

the winner will be the politicians.

the losers will be the voters.

[vguerin]

Originally Posted by iwojimmy

In RL, as a result of every election you get winners and losers.

the winner will be the politicians.

the losers will be the voters.

Real life ? The Trykers just experienced this...

(but thats a whole other thread )

[mugendo]

leadership or manipulation ?
direction or coersion ?
influence or example ?
interpretation or lying ?
genoecide or evolution ?
morality or denial ?




George Bernard Shaw, who was somewhat of an authority on sins and sinning himself, wisely wrote: "The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essense of inhumanity."

or in this case inHomanity


there are many definitions in life.....never facts, only points of view.

[geezas]

Originally Posted by vguerin

Real life ? The Trykers just experienced this...

(but thats a whole other thread )

Yeah we have a drunk to protect us now

[danolt]

Originally Posted by iwojimmy

In RL, as a result of every election you get winners and losers.

the winner will be the politicians.

the losers will be the voters.

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -Emma Goldman

I just love that quote.

[totnkopf]

Originally Posted by iphdrunk

Implying that belonging to a game faction is taking part in mindless warring and sectarian warfare is shortsighted, snobbish and simplistic. Belonging to a faction has several aspects, ranging from a religious one, true.. to warmongery if you want it, without precluding complex positions where one may be factioned yet have doubts or not agree with everything, as much as catholics may use preservatives. You are, by your affirmations, guilty of the same thing you accuse other players to be, be fanatical, a simplisitic bi-polar personalities or dismissing arrogance towards others. You seem to imply that by being atheist or agnostic one is morally superior. Nonsense.

Stating that one factioned player is mindless warrior is like asserting that a neutral player is undecided, coward or willing to reap the benefits with no sacrificies, with lack or beliefs or pure materialism... quite not the picture is it?. You cannot put the Kami or the Karavan in a black-white color setting

Of course, I may be expecting yet another post, arrogant even, where your gameplay, style and roleplaying aspects are so far better and superior to others that picking anything but your choices is a dumb move. I'm sorry, I respect your choices as much as others, but to a point, I do believe neutrals have a part and they enrich the game. From there, towards that condesceding, dismissing attitude.. thanks but no thanks. *shrug*

Where do I sign up to have Anis babies?

As always, Ani... an brilliantly worded post

[raven41]

Originally Posted by grimjim

And if you are?

Then I guess Id be an arrogant fool for thinking so ... Noone is better then me and I am better then noone, Every person has things that they are good at, Or better at then another person, But that person will always have something that he/she does better then you... Like you are a much better propagandist then I could ever be lol! ... And I am better at accepting others views then you haha ... woo I crack myself up

*sorry im in a very good mood.. Both RL and IG went well tonight *

[seawe]

Originally Posted by aardnebb

The Karavan: are destroying Atys for their own greed and exploitative purpose.

The Kami: hypocritically compromise their own ideals when it suits them, and do the above occasionally.

They both: command their minions to kill each other to uphold their "ideals".

If you are neutral because you chose not to march in lockstep with these questionable "higher powers" then you are certainly displaying a certain amount of moral fiber lacking in their minions (unless the minions are simply blind to the realities of the situation, I suppose you can be moral but oblivious in a faction).

Thats moral superiority. There is nothing _wrong_ with playing a morally flawed character, heck all of the best characters in any setting are flawed in some way. But thats your choice.

actually the karavan are the hypocrites it seems as they say they don't allow homins in prime roots but in fact support them there.
i hope neutrals get better access in the future.