Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

[nstotler]

Originally Posted by riveit

I agree with Xyclone. Spoiling the mystery and fun of searching for great recipes is a bad idea.

Only one recipe has been revealed as of now, and as many zun recipes as there is...well


Anyways something I've been interested in is crafts that deviate from the basic rules.
Sometimes (usually discovered during drunken crafting sprees) sup grip/shaft mats seem to offer the greatest boost to the more weird amp combos out there, although it appears as a nerf in the precraft.

Anybody else notice silly stuff like this?

[gillest]

Originally Posted by rajron

alright... thought twice and thought i would mention a few things i know.. or rather THINK i know;P

1) the (preview) x 0.8 + 20 = result stat

2) the max preview boost from focus alone to after adding shaft/grips seems to be 15... meaning if you want a 100/100 you need to start with an 85 or higher with just the amber/eyes/shrooms/buds... think you get the point;P

I am not sure what you mean in point 2 but as far as I know boost formula is nearly the same as precraft formula:
(preview + 20) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats

20 been apparently the minimal stat that can be made.

So the extra stat is not linear but will depend of the preview stats...
Preview 60: ((60+20) x 0.8) + 20 = 68 boosted (8 added).
Preview 97: ((97+20) x 0.8) + 20 = 113 (113.6) boosted (16 added)

I think this work whatever you are crafting: PF for armurs, dmg for weap and so on (TBC)

Edit: I Re-read your post and I am talking about something different

[sidusar]

Originally Posted by gillest

(preview + 20) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats

If you're talking about rubarn boosts, that would be
(preview x 1.2) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats

[gix74]

This could be a silly question but, how do you know the value of a postcrafted stat?

Let' say I'm crafting an armor and I've "protection" precrafted stat of 10, then I "know" that postcrafted it should be (10 x 0.8)+20 = 28

If now I look at the armor info window, what will be the number showed after "protection" ? Will it be 28% ?

[blaah]

Originally Posted by gix74

This could be a silly question but, how do you know the value of a postcrafted stat?

precraft*0.8+20=postcraft is only valid for magic power/speed stats on amps as amps magic speed/power postcraft value range is 20 to 100.

[chibiarc]

The Formula is valid for all conversions. It's just a base value and a range value added to it, the preview numbers are just scaled to the range.

For Magic it is Base 20, Range 0-80, hence our "creepy" "mysterious" "legendary" "ultimate" formula that only "works" with amps.

For HP it's something like this Final = 100+0.9*Preview, no idea bout the range actually. Also depends on the plan used, every final stat has a base and a range, sometimes the base is 0 so the stat is scaled 1:1.

For Jewel resistance it's for example Final = 0 + floor(0.8*Preview), base is 0 but you never notice because the 3 highest values are chosen, you cannot end up with a 0 protection.

Just my 2 cents.

[chibiarc]

Jewel Lookup Table

Maximized for HP, Basic Plan 1 material of each = max protections

acid cold rot -
acid fire rot - hash messab/gubani timari/arma
acid shock rot -
acid poison rot - hash beng gubani
acid elec rot - hash messab mektoub/psykopla

cold fire rot -
cold shock rot - soo zun stinga/jubla/frippo/madakam/raspal
cold poison rot - zun beng pha/soo
cold elec rot - zun soo/pha psykopla/bodoc/yelk

fire shock rot -
fire poison rot -
fire elec rot - hash arma psykopla/yelk

shock fire rot -
shock poison rot - zun beng jubla/madakam
shock elec rot - zun mektoub/bodoc jubla/raspal/madakam

poison elec rot -

poison elec acid - sha bolobi psykopla/mektoub
poison elec cold -
poison elec fire - sha yelk/psykopla cratcha/ploderos/lumper
poison elec shock - sha bodoc/mektoub jubla/wombai/bawaab

fire cold acid - pha gubani timari/lumper/arma
fire cold shock -
fire cold poison - pha beng ploderos/lumper
fire cold elec - pha yelk/psykopla ploderos/lumper/arma

shock acid cold -
shock acid fire - cratcha bolobi/messab stinga/raspal/wombai/bawaab
shock acid poison - bolobi wombai/bawaab sha/beng
shock acid elec - mektoub bolobi/messab raspal/wombai/bawaab

poison acid cold - pha beng gubani
poison acid fire - sha/beng bolobi/gubani cratcha/lumper/bolobi

elec acid cold -
elec acid fire - psykopla bolobi/messab cratcha/lumper/arma

shock cold fire -
shock cold poison - soo beng jubla/wombai/madakam
shock cold elec - soo bodoc jubla/raspal/wombai/madakam

fire shock elec -



Jewel Setting Lookup Table

Basic Plan 1 material of each = max resists

desert forest lake - caprice rendor/messab/frippo/arana yelk/ploderos/arma
desert forest jungle - caprice sarina frippo/arana/wombai/lumper
desert forest pr -

desert lake jungle -
desert lake pr - madakam/yelk/arma rendor/bodoc/messab timari/gubani

desert jungle pr - sarina bodoc timari

forest lake jungle -
forest lake pr -

forest jungle pr - sarina saurona mektoub/bawaab

lake jungle pr - silvio madakam/bolobi timari/raspal

[desertt]

nice thread im not that profesional as u guys but used to have a few weird amp combo's aswel with bones and exc magic focus just dont know which anymore i lost the recipe

thing that really helped me is fill a mek with all posible mats u can get just for the heck of testing effects certain mats have on each other i did it for amps

[alisa112]

I'm curious to know if there's such a thing as +2 parry MA...and if it's possible to craft +1 dodge/+1 parry LA without boss mats?

[xtarsia]

Originally Posted by alisa112

I'm curious to know if there's such a thing as +2 parry MA...and if it's possible to craft +1 dodge/+1 parry LA without boss mats?

MA no,

LA yes.

Though somewhat pointless imo, as you cant take advantage of dodge AND parry at the same time.